Truth is not the same as facts, evidence, or honesty, although these may contribute to discerning the truth. Truth always aligns with reality and allows us to relax when we feel confident in it. The opposite of truth is not simply falsity but also chaos and confusion in which we feel anxious and distracted. In this conversation with Arthur Samuelson, the Program Director of the Rowe Conference Center, Polly talks about subjective and objective truth and how/why they relate to the limits or constraints of reality. She also talks about why she developed Pay Attention: Interviews About Truth in Troubling Times and how she chooses guests for this program.